THE KEY PORTION CONCERNING ELIJAH REEDY”S
CRITICAL MISTAKES ARE BELOW
HE ACCEPTS RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS ACTIONS
THIS PAGE INCLUDES ROCK’S ORIGINAL 2016 RESTORATION WORKS
THE 2017 WARRANTY FACTS ARE WHERE ELIJAH REEDY WAS INVOLVED
ELIJAH REEDY AGREED TO HANDLE A BASIC FREE WARRANTY REPAIR
FOR ROCK THIS IS WHERE HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE PATRON
ELIJAH FORGOT THAT THIS PAGE EXISTED SHOWING ROCK’S WORKS
HIS ORIGINAL WORKS PROVING ELIJAH’S DIAGNOSIS WAS BOGUS
THIS PAGE DEMONSTRATS THE WARRANTY PROBLEM WAS MINOR
LIKE NOTHING HE WAS DESCRIBING WAS WAS WRONG WITH THE WATCH
ESPECIALLY WHAT HE WAS DESCRIBING SUCH AS REQUIRING A COMPLETE
OVER HAUL? WHEN IN FACT THE WATCH HAD BEEN OVERHAULED
THIS PARTICULAR RESTORATION INVOLVES A VINTAGE VIETNAM ERA PILOTS/OFFICERS HACKING VERSION MILITARY WATCH THAT ROCK RESTORED & ELIJAH REEDY WOULD UTILIZE TO ATTEMPT TO “MAKE XTRA CASH WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FREE XCEPT FOR COST OF ANY PARTS. HE WAS JUST SUPPOSED TO CHECK FREELY UNDER A WARRANTY WITH NO CHARGE XCEPT FOR PART COSTS AND WHICH HE SAID HE WAS ADJUSTING AND SENDING BACK BUT DID NOT INSTEAD HE ACTUALLY INFORMED THE PATRON HE REQUIRED A COMPLETE OVERHAUL? W/O INFORMING ROCK! ELIJAH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL RESTORATION! IMAGINE IT WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH THAT HE WAS ABLE TO SECURE NEARLY 2 TO 300K IN EQUIPMENT FOR 7K WHEN ROCK WAS ILL? THAT ALL HE WAS ASKED TO DO AND AGREED TO BY ROCK WAS TO ADJUST THE TIMING, POSSIBLY CHANGE THE BALANCE AND CHARGE ONLY COSTS AS A FAVOR AS AGREED TO BY HELPING OUT ROCKS WARRANTED PATRON, IT HAD BEEN RESTORED AND HAD RUN FOR A FULL YEAR BEFORE IT BEGAN TO RUN 30 MINUTES FAST EVERY 12 HOURS SO IT WAS SENT IN FOR A FREE WARRANTY REPAIR WITH PARTS PAID BY PATRON! BUT IT SEEMS THAT GREED GOT IN THE WAY AND NOT HONESTY & COMPASSION! ROCK SAYS YOU DECIDE IF ELIJAH HANDLED IT CORRECTLY! NOTE THAT IN THE DISCUSSION NONE OF THE WORK WAS DISCUSSED, INSTEAD THE PATRON WAS INFORMED ROCK DID NOT DO ANYTHING RIGHT AT ALL? BUT RECALL THAT THIS PAGE SHOWS THE WORK ROCK DID! ALSO THAT ALL IT TOOK WAS SOME BALANCE WORK TO GET HER WORKING PERFECT, YET ELIJAH CHARGED HIM MORE THAN ROCK DID YET ROCK RESTORED THE ENTIRE WATCH FROM HANDS, TO DIAL, CASE, STRAP TO MOVEMENT
PLUS RE-LUMED IT AND GAVE HIM A FREE ONE YEAR WARRANTY AND A FREE ONLINE APPRAISAL!!….. FOR LESS THEN ELIJAH CHARGED
[NOTE THERE ARE TWO PARTICULAR MILITARY WATCHES ONE WAS NOT MADE TO THE BELOW SPECS. ONE WAS THE TOP TIME PIECE DURING VIETNAM ISSUED TO AVIATORS AS WELL AS RANKING NON COM GROUND POUNDERS. ONE PARTICULAR VERSION DOES NOT HACK SO IT WAS UTILIZED MORE THAN LIKELY BY NON-COM GROUND SOLDIER]
BENRUS WAS THE MILITARY’S FIRST WATCH CONTRACTOR-BUILDING 10,000 TIME PIECES
CLICK HERE FOR ACTUAL US GOV SPEC SHEETS. THOUGH THE WATCHES JUST HAD TO LAST 2 YEARS AND THEY COULD BE 7 JEWEL MOVEMENTS, BENRUS CREATED
THE 17 JEWEL HACKING AND NON HACKING VERSION AFTER THIS ALL FOLLOWING WATCHES WERE BUILT ONLY TO LAST 2 YEARS
[NOTE THIS PARTICULAR MILITARY WATCH WAS NOT MADE TO THE BELOW LOWER SPECS FOR THE DTU-2A/P IT INCLUDES THE 3818A/B SPECS. IT WAS THE TOP MILITARY TIME PIECE DURING VIETNAM AND ISSUED TO AVIATORS AS WELL AS RANKING NON COM GROUND POUNDERS. THIS PARTICULAR VERSION IS A HACK VERSION THUS A PILOTS] AND YES THIS ONE THAT ROCK RESTORED HACKS
IT WAS GIVEN TO THE PATRON IN 1968 WHILE HE SERVED ABOARD THE CORAL SEA SERVING HIS NATION HOW DARE ELIJAH RIP HIM OFF WITH BS ROCK!!!!!!
above is actual military spec sheet
PHP SITE ABOVE
BENRUS DIVE WATCHES IN VIETNAM? UDT/SEALS OPTION FOR MILITARY ISSUE? BULOVA LOSES MILITARY CONTRACT FOR US MARINES FIRST EVER VIETNAM GOV ISSUED WATCH, INSTEAD, BENRUS RECEIVES THE CONTRACT. MIL-W-3118B
3118B WAS BEFORE THE REVIVAL TO DTU -2A/P?
NEW NONE REPAIR THROW AWAY IN 2 YEARS. THEY ONLY HAD THE SINGLE CASE LIKE BENRUS SO, THOUGH THIS BENRUS HAS
DTU-2A/P ON CASE, IT IS NOT AN ACTUAL CHEAPER DTU-2A/P
IT IS BETTER! 17 JEWELS WITH REPAIR ABILITY
NOTE THE DETAIL FOR
THE 3818-B VS DTU-2A/P
WHICH BECAME THE PRIME VIETNAM BASED VERSION
NO NAMES WERE/ARE WRITTEN ON DIALS
BRANDING ALLOWED ON CASE BACKS ONLY
NO LONGINES NO OMEGA NO LE-COULTRE NO OTHER HIGH END BRANDS
NO COMPLICATED SPECS WERE REQUIRED
THE ONLY WATCH BRANDS WERE
BENRUS HAMILTON WESTCLOX BELFORTE TIMEX
[TORNEK RAYVILLE HAD ONE TIME SEAL DIVE CONTRACT IT IS FURTHER BELOW]
INFO ON CASES AND BASE SPECS
SEVEN JEWEL MOVEMENT- METAL / PLASTIC CASES- SINGLE ONE PIECE CASES
ACCESS MOVEMENT THROUGH CRYSTAL- NO SERVICE REQUIRED
ALL THROW AWAY- MUST LAST 2 YEARS – NO SCREW BACKS – NO AUTOMATICS
keeping great time
ALSO, THERE WAS NO BENRUS 1 AND II DIVE WATCHES IN THE NAM, THERE WERE NON! THE ONLY DIVES WERE THOSE PURCHASED IN PX/BX R&R MADE BY BENRUS. LOOK FORWARD TO MY EXPOSE ON THE BENRUS TYPE II AUTOMATICS… WHAT A CROCK!
BTW: HAD TO GO TO VA WHEN MY BLOOD PRESSURE WENT TO 180 OVER ?????
YUP. JUST HAD HEADACHES FOR 2 MONTHS AND OTHER THINGS HAPPENING. THEY IMMEDIATELY TOOK CARE OF ME.. AWESOME THE VA IS!!!
“L” =LEVER “B”= BALANCE WHEEL
USING THIS FUNCTION TO ADD A HACKING FUNCTION WAS BRILLIANT. WHEN YOU PULL CROWN AN ADDED TWO PIECE SPRING LOADED HACKING LEVER COMES IN CONTACT WITH THE CLUTCH WHICH NOT ONLY CONNECTS TO THE WHEEL DRIVING THE MINUTE WHEEL – ALLOWING FOR THE SETTING OF TIME — BUT ALSO MOVES SECTION ONE OF THE HACK LEVER THAT THEN MOVE THE SECOND STAGE THAT HOLDS THE HACKING PIN!
THAT LEVER MOVES THE PIN TO THE BALANCE WHEEL STOPPING IT. WHEN YOU PUSH CROWN BACK IN THE CLUTCH MOVES BACK TOWARDS THE CROWN AND ENGAGES THE WATCH TO BE WOUND.
IF THE PIN IS BENT TOO FAR IT COULD BREAK THE BALANCE STAFF OR CAUSE DAMAGE OVER TIME. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WAS REPAIRED AFTER EVERY OTHER ITEM OF RESTORATION OF THE MOVEMENT WAS ACCOMPLISHED.
THE PIN YOU SEE WAS BENT AND POSITIONED TOO FAR RIGHT -CAUSING IT NOT TO FUNCTION PROPERLY.
RESTORE & OVER HAUL
DIAL CLEANED LIGHTLY TOUCHED UP
HANDS ORIGINAL RE-ILLUMINATED
MOVEMENT OVER HAULED
THIS IS A HACK VERSION
MAINTAINED THE ORIGINAL
MILITARY FINISH BEAD “CLEANED”
AS YOU CAN SEE CASE IS LIKE IT WAS ORIGINALLY
SORRY FOR BLUR
NOTE THE TRITIUM MARKERS SLIGHTLY GLOW
HANDS RE-ILLUMINATED TO LOOK AGED
A MARKER PEN FILLED WITH ENAMEL PAINT
WOULD BE USED TO TOUCH UP THE DIAL EDGES
BLEACHING THE WHITE NUMERALS & REAPPLYING WHITE
CLEANING DAMAGE SHOWS FROM
LONG PERIOD OF HAND SETTING AND MOVEMENT
NO BUT CLOSE
THIS STUFF IS A MUST
NOTE THAT THE TIME PIECE IS AWESOME
NEEDS NEW CRYSTAL
THE CRYSTAL IS IMPORTANT
BECAUSE IT ALSO CONTACTS THE EDGES OF DIAL
HOLDING IT IN…
NEW SPRING BARS
NOTE EDGES NO LONGER SHOW WHITISH
THIS IS STEEL WITH A SPECIAL COATING
SO CLEANING, RESTORING AND MIMICKING
THAT FINISH IS ABOUT 4.5 HOURS OF WORK
THIS VERSION DR 2F2
HACKING VERSION. .
new jewel cap which means the ruby oil cap,
and the lock down shock absorber—also
this is for the balance–which required
pivot polishing — the pivot ran off center
THE MOVEMENT IS THE STANDARD DR 2F2
they were released after the vietnam war
BELOW IS A LIST OF MILITARY WATCH CONTRACTS. NOTE
THAT ALL DATES DO NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THE DATE OF
ISSUE TO FORCES. THE FIRST CONTRACT FOR A MIL ISSUE
WATCH FOR VIETNAM WENT TO BENRUS 1962 –WHOM
BEAT OUT BULOVA AND OTHERS– YET THE CONTRACT
DELIVERY DATE WAS FOR THE MARINES AND DELIVERY WAS 1964.
THE Mil-W-46374 WOULD BECOME THE WATCH OF CHOICE
BY THE US MILITARY FOR TROOPS AND WOULD
NOT HAVE THE SAME QUAILITY.W
HERE IS WHERE ELIJAH REEDY
DAN’S WATCH CAME IN FOR WARRANTY WORK
IT WAS RUNNING 30 MINUTES FAST EVERY 12 HOURS
ONE YEAR AFTER ROCK HAD RETIRED
ELIJAH REEDY WAS ASKED IF HE WOULD HANDLE IT
ELIJAH OWED ROCK A LITTLE AFTER MAKING HIM WAIT FOR HIS CASH NEARLY A YEAR-ELIJAH
REEDY STATED HE WOULD CHECK IT OUT
HE WAS INFORMED ONLY COSTS OF PARTS AND NO LABOR!
HE AGREED! I THOUGHT DAN HAD THE WATCH BACK
AGTER THE FIRST TWO WEEKS BUT LOW AND BEHOLD
ELIJAH DECIDED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MY FRIEND & PATRON
AFTER A YEAR THE TIME PIECE CAME IN FOR A SIMPLE BASIC WARRANTY SITUATION IT WAS RUNNING FAST AND DAN UNDER MY COMMAND SENT THE WATCH TO ELIJAH REEDY BUT IT SOON BECAME A NIGHTMARE WHEN A SIMPLE NO FEE BASIC PARTS SITUATION TURNED INTO A NIGHTMARE OF RIP OFF SCAM BY ELIJAH REEDY WHOM DECIDED TO SEEK CASH
OK. WHY DO I OBJECT TO ELIJAH REEDY USING MY NAME? THE DAN HOBACK WARRANTY & ELIJAH COMES TO MIND! I ASKED ELIJAH TO CHECK OUT A WARRANTY RETURN ONCE FOR A CLIENT DAN ,HOBACK simple A minor warranty repair of a restoration of a military watch. A watch I restored IN NOV 2016, was NOV 2017 A year PREVIOUS Elijah not only lied but scammed him and did it so well DAN gave him his money and WAS TAKEN 4 EVERY CENT I will take you through this terrible tale that I THOUGHT THE JOB HAD BEEN ACCOMPLISHED MONTHS BEFORE IT ACTUALLY WAS THERE WAS SUPPOSE TO BE NO CHARGE EXCEPT ANY MINOR PARTS CHARGE. GOT IT! NO RE-CHARGES BUT? IF YOU SAY I HAVE TO CLEAN OR INSTALL BLAH BLAH IT IS FREE WARRANTY. IF YOU NEED A PART JUST THE COST! ELIJAH HAD THE WORLD HE HAD GOT EVERYTHING FROM ME FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR , YET HE RIPPED THIS GREAT PATRON OFF….W/O TELLING ME! AND THEN I GOT WORD AS TO WHAT HE DID AND IT WAS SHOCK!
THE DanHOBACK EPISODE 2017-11-13 16:40:08
Message:”ROCK, HOPE YOU ARE ENJOYING RETIREMENT AND THAT YOU AND YOURS ARE KEEPING WELL.I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR WARRANTY ON THE WATCH YOU DID FOR ME IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. IT IS GAINING 30 MINUTES IN A TWELVE HOUR PERIOD. CAN WE WORK SOMETHING OUT? YOU WILL RECALL IT IS A DTU-2A-3818B 17 JEWEL BENRUS MOVEMENT. THE RECEIPT #1658-8429-4134-7625 DATED DECEMBER 20, 2016 APPLIES.”
i informed dan that yes , of course i would honor the warranty. i stated i would have Elijah , whom bought my equipment, take a look at it seeing that i knew the watch so darn well that i could work with him over the phone and assist him with whatever it required. Heck the watch was an easy as pie time piece and it was mint seeing that I had it perfected and the problem it had, running fast, could be fixed ! Simply. Period! I would bet it any day! the balances were available and everything else was like new! Again, Every thing was like
new in that watch period! i knew that period! i had access and still do to every part in that movement on the market I knew where to go if necessary! FACT!!!! It had to be an adjustment because i could bet on my entire family that their were no SERIOUS broken or worn parts period! And as my thousands of military watch restores beg to prove, I knew that watch like I knew 70 others I had restored. “So i informed Dan that we would send it to Elijah. And I asked Elijah if he could re-time the watch! HE COULD simply reset OR REPLACE the balance.
DAN was a great patron, he sent the watch to elijah. elijah sent a message stating he had received the watch. Mind you, the watch worked great except it was 30 MINUTES FAST IN A TWELVE HOUR PERIOD. Originally it was losing time, in fact I had restored the watch Complete. A new main spring was added and it was completely overhauled. In fact it ran slightly slow and i had informed Dan that it would speed up once the main spring loosened up and it sure did.. so it did not surprise me that it ran fast after nearLY 12 months! I thought it would do so earlier but not 30 minutes iT could be corrected in A little time! But then Elijah got his greedy hands a hold of it and he saw $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
|:Elijah||Happy Thanksgiving, I just wanted to send you a message real quick and let you know I picked the watch up. I will be sending you another message in a few days. With a few questions.Talk to you then.|
12-05 04:13:46Hello, Tell me about your relationship with the watch? Do you wear it often, when you do wear it, what are you doing the days you wear the watch. 30 second gain is a little high, but for a watch of this age,
Elijah: Yes, I actually started timing the watch yesterday. WHAT Sorry for the delay. I wanted to have it back to you a few weeks ago, unfortunately I had several pressing issues arise- several big investors sent in a few large restorations in early December . Last week was the first week I could actually start getting caught up from my other work
rock: this was a lie he had no investers in fact i was trying to get paid also WAITING FOR THE BALANCE HE OWED ME! while he was out fixing real estate!
Elijah:I pulled your watch out today and its on the timer machine being assessed.
rock i THOUGHT THAT POSSIBLY HE WAS TRYING STRETCH TIME? i HAD sent him, ONCE MORE, the link to THIS VERY PAGE, MY online works on this PARTICULAR RESTORATION! I DID NOT BOTHER HIM ABOUT HIS TALE ABOUT HAVING A TIMING MACHINE CAPABLE OF ASSESSING WHY THE TIME PIECE WAS RUNNING FAST! I PROVIDED A ELECTRONIC TIMING DEVICE BUT IN NO WAY IS IT THAT CAPABLE!!! IN FACT I DOUBT HE KNOWS HOWTO USE IT!
dan 2018-01-03 14:05:41DAN Thanks for the update.
dan: It’s been a week now, did my watch survive the timer? Is it adjustable to meet specs? How soon do you think it will be coming home?
rock i find out that ELIJAH IS STILL DOING NOTHING AT ALL
elijah to dan: Good Morning, I got the flu and was down for almost 10 days. Today is my first day back.[reALIZE THATr his set up is in the house!!] I will have it ready in 2 days. I will send you a paypal invoice for shipping. when i saw this i stopped paying attention and never checked back caus e i thought it was done. I WAITED FOR THE CALL FROM elijah ! BUT HE WAS was after dan’s wallet big time
“hello Dan, After going thru the timing process In all 6 positions I noticed I kept getting an irregular beat pattern, [this is a lie one can determine this BEFORE GOING THROUGH ALL THAT BS] At first I thought the movement was gummed up from every day use. Which, it is by the way. “
[this was a lie -you see– because the watch ran perfect! it simply kept perfect time only it was 30 minutes fast every 12 perfect hours that meant it was a mechanical problem not a dirty” watch hello caught you bro lying]
elijah again WITH THE MONEY BOMB: “” But that can be fixed with just a service to the movement itself.”””
[this was ALSO a lie because the watch kept perfect time perfectly” 30 minutes fast every 12 hours!” perfect & it did not need servicing it needed adjustment ]
Which if its an every day worn watch its time to get the watch serviced and protect your investment. That’s the first thing, Due to the watch beat jumping around and getting irregular beats I decided to go in for a closer look. I noticed the hairspring has 2 coils that have moved out from each other, I am almost certain that this is the reason why your time piece is running this way. We will never be able to get this watch timed or running correctly with this
hairspring in this condition. It will only get worse.
CLOSER LOOK? THE 2 COILS ??? YOU COULD SEE THEM FROM THE TOP! LOOKING DOWN!
W/O ANY PROBLEM RIGHT AWAY! SIMPLY BY LOOKING DOWN AT THE BALANCE! THIS WAS A FACT! ELIJAH STATED THIS! HE SHOULD HAVE WITNESSED THIS IMMEDIATELY AT THE VERY FIRST TIME HE LOOKED INTO THE MOVEMENT. IN FACT WHEN HE OPENED THE WATCH TO CHECK WHY SHE WAS RUNNING 30 MINUTES FAST! WE CHECK THE BALANCE HAIR SPRING THE FIRST TIME TO SEE IF IT IS COILED PROPERLY. IS HE STATING THAT IT WAS NOT PERFECTLY SPACED? READ ON DOWN!!!
THIS IS SIMPLY another lie because if the beat was jumping around the timing would never had been so precise! hello it would never had been 30 minutes every 12 hours the time would have been all over the placer like crazy you screwed it up elijah! yup, the watch kept perfect time 3o minutes fast every 12 hours! it did not need servicing it needed adjustment OR REPLACEMENT ]
i have literally have thousands of watches online that you can VIEW do you know how easy it is to fix coils on a balance? or BETTER YET simply change balance complete which has the coil!???
I am not sure if this is the original balance or not? Could be from age, could also be from residue getting gummed up along the coils and it caused a few of them to stick and from the weight shifting it caused 2 of them to cross over each other. ELIJAH!!!
<< come on bs!! you can see easly if it is gummed uP? OR SIMPLY LOOK AT THE RESTORE PICS PERFECT I WOULD HAVE SIMPLY OPTED TO CHANGE HER!
[note, i have fixed thousands of balances period i restored this watch and that movement was pristine! STEADY 30 minutes every 12 hours was factual! yet you went and missed the cause and blamed everything but the facts changing the balance complete WITH coil WOULD HAVE SAVED THE DAY AND WOULD HAVE ENDED IT ALL!!! i was not there but your work was bsl ]
When you first reached out to me about the warranty work !, with it just being a simple timing correction I was happy to just take it in and correct the timing for you. However now we are looking at a completely different animal now. This is not a simple timing correction,
OH MY GOD HERE HE WAS BLAMING DAN! DAN NEVER REACHED OUT TO ELIJAH I DID HELL DAN DID NOT KNOW ELIJAH YOU READ THE FACTS! HE WAS NOT HAPPY TO “JUST TAKE IT IN” I ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD TAKE IT IN FOR FREE CHARGE NOTHING BUT COST FOR PARTS. IT WAS HE THAT HAD BEEN SCREWING UP CAUSE HE DID NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING AND WHY? CAUSE HE WAS NOT STUDYING LIKE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING NOT READING THE BOOKS NOT GOING TO ALL MY SITES LIKE I HAD TRAINED HIM TO DO, HE HAD SIMPLY PURCHASED THE EQUIPMENT AND THEN CLOSED HIS EARS TO MY TRAINING, MY RECOMMENDATIONS AND DECIDED HE COULD SIMPLY FOOL HIS CLIENTS AND HE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AS HE HAS SHOWN WITH DAN FOR DAM STILL DID NOT CALL ME AND ELIJAH SIMPLY LIED TO HIM OVER AND OVER IN THIS CASE HE TELLS DAN HE IS SHIPPING THE WATCH REPAIRED BUT THAT IS A LIE BECAUSE HE IS DETERMINED TO GET PAID IF HE HAS TO MAKE THE WATCH HAVE PROBLEMS AND THAT IS WHAT HE DOES HE CREATES IT!
DO NOT FORGET I ASKED ELIJAH IF HE WOULD DO ME A FAVOR AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS WARRANTY RETURN AND FIX IT FOR FREE EXCEPT AT COST FOR PARTS. IN FACT THE ELIJAH OWED ME SO MUCH IT AIN’T FUNNY. AND NOW HE WAS BLAMING MY PATRON! HE, ELIJAH, HAD GUARANTEED ME, ROCK, THAT HE WOULD GET THE PATRON’S WATCH RUNNING FOR FREE ONLY CHARGING FOR PARTS BUT NOW HE WAS RIPPING HIM OFF!!!
i am sorry, a warranty meant anything at all what ever he needed so what are you saying you did not call me! fact is it takes ten to 15 minutes to change a coil spring or balance complete so stop the the bs you did sht you did nothing but hold the man’s watch until you could rip him off ROCK
(pOH MY GOD elijah you moved for the kill! And gave me a curtsey call he reached out to me my warranty not yours! it is was simple! you made a mountain out of a mole hill. the watch kept perfect time due to a problem that made it keep time that was 30 minutes fast every 12 hours? how you miss that? the key was the balance period! something causing the balance TO not beat right correct? it was perfect? so no dirt no nothing but that balance hair spring] below is a lie!!!!!
1. The watch needs to be serviced. At that time the watch movement would get completely taken apart and ran thru a 3 stage cleaning process???. All the keyless work, jewels, wheels, mainspring, pinion would get lubricated. The hairspring would also get removed -which this is a must at this point because of the way it sits right now, the watch is running- how long it will continue to run is uncertain, the accuracy of this watch right now just poor.
(it was not erratic! it did not require all the bs you are saying you owe dan an apology and cash IF IN FACT you ripped him off ok what bs is he talking about? first, it was running 30 minutes fast like clock work not poorly? i had completely worked it SEE THE PICS. it was not running slow or missing time or stopping and then running nothing said it was going to fail only that that it was running too fast. that did not mean you scare the hell out of the mans pocket book this was a rip off if i ever saw one! period. what is this 3 stage cleaning? u talking about 1952 parts washer!! He is makes it seem like killer technology! those whom know we never usiED JUST that cleaner for these watches! awesome Vintage Killer Military Watches like this deserve the ultrasonic cleaner! I informed Elijah of that fact!!!!! So if he did what i think he did, he lied to Dan AGAIN!!! Cause that watch never required the work Elijah stated it did READ THE FACTS i HASVE THEM IN THE ORIGINAL LIST ABOVE SEE ULTRASONIC NOTE THAT IT HAS HACKING MECHANISM DID YOU KNOW THAT BET YOU DUD NOT I HOPE UYOU DID NOT MISS THAT THOSE FACTS ]
I believe you stated the watch was gaining 30 seconds a day? (i guess dan missed this again? Elijah once again states seconds & this is what happens when ONE getS caught! he never ever adjusted anything at all) My first timing of the watch it was gaining nearly “5 seconds” (note he was always working in seconds). Now that can be adjusted, but my point is this. We can adjust and adjust- the hairspring is must be symmetrical or it will continue to run very poor – its the heart of the watch. (it was never running poorly. that means oddly with no stRaight time. in this case we had definitive timing! it was absolute! 30 minutes! which means it could be adjusted! rocks two cents! rather it was running 30 minutes fast over 24 hours the daughter wore the watch every day nearly 24hrs!)
elijah’s greatest greedy mistake is in this paragraph:
Dan, I have spent 8 hrs diagnosing and assessing this watch for you. I really tried to make up for the lost time as the last 2 months have just well to say the least very busy. Add my entire house getting sick , its just not what I was hoping for. I have not even looked your ticket up from when you purchased this watch. Can you tell me more about this purchase. Was it a restored watch that Rock completed for you? I noticed a few things that could use some attention. I want sure if Rock just had the watch and you bought it, or if you were specific on how you wanted the watch. ELIJAH
ANOTHER LIE BY ELIJAH REEDY NOTE HE DOES NOT SAY HE CALLED ME?
RECALL THAT THIS WAS A WARRANTY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FREE
LABOR AND WAS TO BE ELIJAH CALLING ME UP AND HE WAS TO EX-
AMINE THE WATCH AND ONLY CHARGE COSTS FOR ANY PARTS NOT CONSIDER IT A JOB FOR PROFIT HE SHOULD HAVE LET ME KNOW IF HE DECIDED TO RIP YOU OFF! HELLO IT WAS RUNNING 30 MINUTES TOO FAST EVERY 12 HOURS IF HE LOOKED AT THIS PAGE HE NOTED IT WAS HACKING MILITARY WATCH THAT
I TORE DOWN AND REPLACED KEY PARTS AND THAT A SIMPLE
BALANCE COMPLETE OR HAIRSPRING WOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT ON
TO CHARGE THE PATRON AS A REGULAR JOB AND FULL PROFIT??
AND NOT AS WHAT THE DEAL WAS HER ELIJAH CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR
PROBLEM IS ELIJAH FORGOT THAT IT WAS A WARRANTY AND HE AGREED
TO TAKE IT AS A FAVOR AND THEN HE DID NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING AT ALL
AND INSTEAD OF SHOWING THAT HE MADE UP LIES LIKE THE ELECTRONIC TESTOR
AND SO MANY OTHERS LIKE THE COILS HELLO AND MORE HE DOES THIS ALL THE TIME
THEN HE BLAMES THE PATRON WHOM NEVER ASKED FOR ELIJAH ROCK SENT HIM THERE
hello?? did you read the above?He knows that the watch was issued to Dan aboard the USS Coral Sea on September 18, 1968 and had been continuously in his possession! He completely forgot the history of this time piece or my own works! do you believe any of it? i informed elijah about this watch, he saw the original ticket, the warranty, and the restoration history, all of you know what that means! the pictures of all the work i did, the strip down, the complete build out, the parts, the works, the timing, the buffing, all the work, the history, everything that i did from start to finish originally and i went over it for him? instead he goes for Dan’s wallet at every turn! While i am believing he has shipped Dan his watch weeks before he is trying to sell him a strap along with a complete service with parts and a complete overhaul that he will accomplish by buying parts???? say what? Imagine this? He does not have it running cause he screwed it up!!! Yet while informing him it is screwed up, he goes into telling him he decided to look into bracelets????? Which he will offerfor free? WHY THIS?? Even though he knew just how important the original strap was?
NOTE THIS!!! DAN: I noticed the bracelet was in pretty rough shape(Peeling). I decided to look in some of the old stock that I had and found several bracelets like the one you have on there now, If you just like that bracelet I could refinish that one for you at time of Service. I would be more than willing to offer you another bracelet free of charge just for the long wait that you had to endure. Or I could refinish the one you have now, So right now you have 2 options. I can put the watch back together , its running, She can wear it till it stops running, [what the fk] which it will do at some point. It may even start to do it periodically then start back. Once it stops you can send it back in and we can asses it then and address it. ELIJAH IN THE WORST RIP OFF THREAT I EVER READ THE KIND THAT GETS TOURISTS
HELLO? DID YOU READ IT? I THOUGHT HE MAILED THE WATCH BUT HE WAS GOING AGAINST EVERYTHING I COULD EVER BELIEVE HE WOULD DO! ASKED HIM! TO WHERE IT TILL IT STOPS? WHAT ABOUT MY WARRANTY? ROCK
Or you can have the watch serviced- 190.00<<<< what does this mean??? I can try to get the hairspring back into shape- if I cannot get the hairspring back into considerable condition, we will have to start looking for a replacement hairspring- 90.00-150.00*** This isn’t a part I can just order. I will have to find it- could be 7 days could be a couple of months- Or if you don’t want the watch serviced but only want me to address the balance I can do that as well. Though I see it foolish to not invest in the service of this timepiece, But it you just want me to address the balance I can. I already did some research tonight , There are 2 balance completes for this movement for sale. Both of them are for under 60 dollars. I will need to contact sellers though and ask them a few questions. But once those 2 sell I could not tell you when another one would come available. Just decide what you would like for me to do, You only have to pay half up front and the rest at time of completion. ELIJAH RIP OFF
THE BALANCE COMPLETE [WITH HAIRSPRING] IS AVAILABLE KNOW YOUR PARTS DEALERS! IT IS A PART YOU CAN ORDER! WHAT MAKES YOU BELIEVE THEY ARE RARE ELIJAH? THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD GET IT DONE OR QUIT! IN FACT I WONDER IF YOU REALIZE SHE IS A HACKING WATCH? THE MOVEMENT IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION! IT WAS SEALED PERFECT!
ARE YOU FOR REAL? FOR CHRIST SAKE YOU CAN SEE IT NEEDS A BALANCE AND THE BALANCE IS AVAILABLE AND IT HAS THE FRIGGEN HAIR SPRING AND YOU CAN CHANGE IT IN 30 MINUTES AND BE DONE! YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SERVICE THE DOG GONE WATCH AND YOU KNOW IT! YOU COULD HAVE DONE THIS WEEKS AGO! YOU HAVE BEEN TRYING TO RIP DAN OFF SINCE DAY ONE! JUST READ YOUR OWN WRITING ELIJAH! WHAT ELECTRONIC DEVICE DID YOU USE! A DAM LIE! EVERY THING POINTS TO THE BALANCE & HAIR SPRING AS A SINGLE ITEM MAKES SENSE SO THAT THE WATCH DOES NOT RETURN IN 12 MONTHS! NO? A SMART MOVE! THAT WATCH DID NOT GUM UP OR IS IT IN NEED OF SERVICE! ADMIT IT! YOU HAVE 90 TO 150 FOR A HAIRSPRING?? ARE YOU NUTS? GET MY PATRON A BALANCE COMPLETE AND INSTALL IT AND GET THE JOB DONE IT WILL RUN LIKE A TOP! PERIOD WHY ARE YOU DELAYING ????
OH NO HERE HE IS LYING AGAIN! 190 TO SERVICE WHAT? REPLACEMENT HAIRSPRING 90 TO 150.00?? THAT IS HIWAY ROBBERY HELL A BALANCE COMPLETE WHICH IS THE WHOLE KIT AND KABOOTLE “WITH THE HAIR SPRING” PLUS LABOR IS CUT IN HALF IS 55 TO 75! AND
CONTRARY TO HIS BS AVAILABLE ? ROCK
I will put yours high priority, meaning I will start on it asap. If I have to buy the part I would need to get that in full and then you would just pay balance of labor to install. I will do everything in power to go above and beyond for you. I do realize that the intake of this watch was not really handled correctly. Though I know it has nothing to do with the mechanics of the watch itself. I just handled the assessment and the timelines poorly. Don’t get me wrong, we have some guys that have had there watches with me for over 8 months ELIJAH
IT IS A WARRANTY JOB ELIJAH NO LABOR YOU AGREED HERE YOU ARE CHARGING LABOR! IT TAKES 30 MINUTES TO PLACE THAT BALANCE. THAT IS A LONG ENOUGH TIME TO DO IT ALL! IT IS YOU WHOM IS MAKING THIS THING GO FOR AGES NOT THE TIME PIECE OR THE PATRON!
WHAT A LIAR 8 MONTHS FOR WHAT THE RUST HE “FOUND” WITH MY MICROSCOPE?
ANOTHER SCAM HE HAS BEEN RUNNING! HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HONOR MY WARRANTY AND DISCOVER WHAT WAS WRONG AND FIX IT FREELY AND IF IT NEEDED ANYTHING ONLY CHARGE COST FOR PARTS NO LABOR HE AGREED AND HE SAID HE HAD SHIPPED THE WATCH IT ALREADY!ROCK
But they knew that going into it.<<did they?>> You however did not, I dropped the ball in telling you it may be a few months. (had i known dan would be ripped off like you ripped him off i sure as hell would never had sent him that watch! ROCK) @ So I apologize for.how in the hell can you appologize for ripping the guy off?? getting more comfortable ripping folk off?? things are starting to run a lot better ??.
you know what realy got me? this bullchit: dan, we missed “a hair spring last night for “17 dollars”. I almost went ahead and bought it, but was unsure on how you feel about all this and so decided to just wait to hear from you. ELIJAH
youy are such a liar. if in fact you had any truth in you you would have spent 17 bucjks and if that was required got the watch working but that is a lie! here you have “replacement hairspring- 90.00-150.00***” for an apprentice whom claims to be a pro , elijah is one of the greatest rip offs. not only is he so lucky to find great amounts of rust in watches, so he can order parts but he loves hair springs! now it would be better to invest in a balance complete. they are available for this time piece and it is cheaper to replace a balance complete duh!!!! ROCK
and i noted this:
Did rock repaint the hands or re lume the hands? ELIJAH
this was never a repair., note how elijah tells his “fibs”. i never performed repairs only restorations and elijah knows this and every restoration had a
complete picture book that is published online. he saw the copy of this one. i sent it to him . not only that, if the hands illuminate they have been reluminated. ROCK
Dan:What’s the status of my watch? We are well past February and no
DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ROCK